Sunday 12 August 2012

All nations are not equal!

http://socialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/all-nations-are-not-equal-in-sport-et-al.html

Friday 10 August 2012

Territorial concessions and ‘rights of return’ for sworn enemies!

Originally on:
http://socialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/territorial-concessions-and-return-for.html

10 AUGUST 2012

Territorial concessions and ‘rights of return’ for sworn enemies!

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From: g87

Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:03 AM

To: the australian

Subject: VER 2: Territorial concessions and 'rights of return' for sworn enemies!!

Territorial concessions and ‘rights of return’ for sworn enemies!

Never in history have a people waged war officially [1948, 1956, 1967, etc.] been constantly defeated by a benign nation [Israel] who plainly only wants to live in peace with them, then waged undeclared war AKA internicine, murderous terrorist campaigns murdering women and children, been given territorial concessions which they always refused, made clear their outrageous murderous intent via their unchanged constitutions and real - world actions - then have the temerity to suggest that ''The right of return of Palestinians is enshrined in law.''

Letters 10/8 Rights in Palestine.

Oh – and in between they reconfigure themselves as ‘refugees’ – and plunder the name ‘Palestinian.’ Plainly they have no relationship to either the Philistines or the British Mandate of 1922.

“A home for the Jewish people..’’

Furthermore, what ‘law’? Not in the real world where intransigent enemies have been wiped out without demur! Note the common law right to self - defence which would have destroyed the terrorists overnight - if Israel exercised it.

There are too many examples:

Remember what the Sri Lankan government did to the Tamil people? 20,000 helpless people were murdered.
The Russians to Chechnya?
USA in Hiroshima: when no response - Nagasaki. Japan then - and only then sued for peace.
Carpet bombing of Berlin?

There are scores of recent examples of nation states acting to protect their people from murderous enemies.

Somehow Israel has never exercised this legal right of self - defence.

The progenitor / activist for a continuum of this travestous mayhem should inform the reader where intransigent mortal enemies have ever been treated to so generously by any other nation? Name the people, time, place, treaty.
In law there is the principle of the looser accepting whatever is offered - invariably a dimunition of previous positions. With the so - called Palestinians - every loss emboldens them to claim more! Plea – bargaining? Not for these people.

I have a dream that one day these activists will concede that Israel is a reality and their attempts to destroy her will gain them nothing except the sympathy of the politically, logistically and historically duplicitous or mere ignorant.

It will also cause their people heartache – whereas living in peace with Israel would enable them to generate wealth for their people.

Not in my lifetime.
Their ancestors have been doing derivations of ‘this’ for thousands of years.

Geoff Seidner

13 Alston Gr East St Kida 3183

03 9525 9299

British Mandate for Palestine (legal instrument)

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This article is about the Mandate instrument passed by the League of Nations granting Britain a mandate over the area currently occupied by Israel, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and Jordan. For a history of the period, see Mandatory Palestine and Transjordan.

The British Mandate for Palestine, or simply the Mandate for Palestine, was a legal commission for the administration of the territory that had formerly constituted the Ottoman Sanjaks of Nablus, Acre, the Southern portion of the Beirut Vilayet, and the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem, prior to the Armistice of Mudros. The draft of the Mandate was formally confirmed by the Council of the League of Nations on 24 July 1922, amended via the 16 September 1922Transjordan memorandum^[1]^[2] and which came into effect on 29 September 1923^[1] following the ratification of the Treaty of Lausanne.^[3]^[4] The mandate ended at midnight on 14 May 1948.

The document was based on the principles contained in Article 22 of the draft Covenant of the League of Nations and the San Remo Resolution of 25 April 1920 by the principal Allied and associated powers after the First World War.^[1] The mandate formalised British rule in the southern part of Ottoman Syriafrom 1923–1948.

The formal objective of the League of Nations Mandate system was to administer parts of the defunct Ottoman Empire, which had been in control of the Middle East since the 16th century, "until such time as they are able to stand alone."^[5] The mandate document formalised the creation of two distinct British protectorates - Palestine, as anational home for the Jewish people under direct British rule, and Transjordan, an Emirate governed semi-autonomously from Britain under the rule of the Hashemitefamily.^[1]

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Rights in Palestine

From:The Australian

August 10, 2012 12:00AM

IT comes as no great surprise that the pro-Israel camp continues to cloak itself in revisionist theories to support its erroneous assertions (Letters, 7/8). The right of return of Palestinians is enshrined in law. Any expert can attempt to manipulate the language or intent of UN resolution 194, but that does not change the facts.

A just solution will only be found when the human rights of all those living in Israel and Palestine are recognised. If giving Palestinians basic human rights is such a threat to Israel, then what does that say about Israel as a democracy?

Moammar Mashni, Australians for Palestine, Melbourne, Vic

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#2

Disgusted by BDS

From:The Australian
August 07, 2012 12:00AM

I WAS disgusted to read the report on unions backing the asinine Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaign ("Unions fuelling Israel protests", 6/8).

The insidious campaign that promotes the boycotting of Israeli businesses as a means of espousing solidarity with the Palestinians parallels the Nazi boycott of Jewish businesses in 1933. It reeks of anti-semitism.

Israel is not a terrorist state. Quite the contrary. Israel is a beacon of democracy in a region dominated by autocratic and murderous regimes. One only needs to look at Syria and Iran as examples.

Nevertheless, it is Israel that consistently incurs the wrath of so-called human rights and peace activists.

Those unions and political groups supporting the BDS warrant condemnation for promoting such an abhorrent campaign. If these movements wanted to advocate on behalf of the Palestinian cause, they ought to lobby both Hamas and the Palestinian Authority to abandon terrorism and urge them to promote democratic rights in the Palestinian territories.

Joel Feren, Elwood, Vic

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Unions fuelling Israel protests

BY:JOHN FERGUSON, VICTORIAN POLITICAL EDITOR
From:The Australian
August 06, 2012 12:00AM

MILITANT unionists and political groups prosecuting the anti-Israel boycott campaign are using official union facilities and resources to encourage anti-business protests and to sell the pro-Palestinian message.

Senior Victorian union figures have admitted growing support from some affiliates and some fringe political groups for the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaign.

It has emerged that along with key union backing, Victorian Trades Hall Council resources have been used for fundraising for the BDS campaign and to aid protesters arrested while backing the Palestinian cause.

VTHC secretary Brian Boyd would not comment on the BDS campaign yesterday.

The Baillieu government called for Labor to distance itself from the BDS campaign being waged from within sections of its industrial wing.

A Labor spokesman said yesterday the BDS campaign had "no role in a respectful and harmonious multicultural Victoria".

"Playing politics with this issue puts at risk the diversity that all Victorians value and cherish," the spokesman said.

But Maritime Union of Australia Victorian secretary Kevin Bracken, a former Trades Hall president, said the campaign was justified as it was a way of defending the Palestinian people.

"We support them because it's a non-violent way of ending the oppression of the Palestinian people, the persecution by Israel," he told The Australian.

Mr Bracken was photographed at a recent BDS protest outside the Max Brenner coffee shop in Melbourne, where the protesters accused the company of links with the Israeli defence forces. A large banner at the protest declared "Israel is a terrorist state".

Victorian Industrial Relations Minister Richard Dalla-Riva said Labor leader Daniel Andrews had not done enough to stamp out Labor links to the BDS campaign.

"The involvement of the Labor-affiliated MUA and the Victorian Trades Hall Council in September 11 conspiracy theories, and the discriminatory, anti-Israel BDS campaign would disgust decent Victorians who belong to those unions or to the Labor Party," he said.

"Last August, the Victorian government called on the Opposition Leader to take action against involvement and support for BDS extremism in the MUA, Victoria's peak union body and his own parliamentary caucus. Mr Andrews did nothing, ignored the problem and the BDS campaign has continued with ongoing support from within the Victorian labour movement."

Last month charges were dismissed against 16 BDS protesters after a rally outside the Max Brenner store in Melbourne's QV Centre. The magistrate ruled that the protest did not threaten public order or breach the peace.

The Baillieu government is considering changing the law to make it harder to disrupt businesses when protesting.

Mr Boyd wrote on his website of the potential implications of the protest and the magistrate's decision. He did not write that he supported the BDS but said the court decision could have significant implications for protesters

Thursday 9 August 2012

I will continue to writing my analysis of Sacks and his views on multiculturalism et al

I will continue another day writing my analysis of Sacks and his views on multiculturalism et al: Note the below links on this blog.

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Note in particular his views on multiculturalism as per these few words extracted from my below post in Generally Jewish, in particular:
''My parents lived those values and taught them to us. They became the first Jews in their families for perhaps a thousand years not to teach their children Yiddish because they wanted us to be English and identify with the wider society.''

Ref: ABRIDGED!!! Sacks: Pride in Britain: Compare with

and
http://www.chiefrabbi.org/2011/02/07/having-pride-in-britain-protects-all-cultures-published-in-the-times/#.UCMJlU0gdqj

It is the above words in particular, the conclusions I postulate indubitably follow on from same - that I will comment on in ever greater detail another time.

There are many tangents flowing from what has been written here that will inevitably require my attention. ANOTHER DAY.....

For now I want to merely didactically elucidate on what Sacks written in his article.
I for now merely write a cryptic introduction as below.

Again - note there are many more problems with this screed of Sacks!
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SYNPOSIS / INTRODUCTION OF SACKS' VIEWS ON MULTICULTURALISM AND MORE: TO BE CONTINUED...LATER

by Geoff Seidner

Note his words as reproduced in full in the below article - the article incidently appears to be complete.

''My parents lived those values and taught them to us. They became the first Jews in their families for perhaps a thousand years not to teach their children Yiddish because they wanted us to be English and identify with the wider society.''

Superficially I have problems with this. Sacks is so proud of his parents' yearnings to assimilate; plainly not realising that in vouchsafing ''these values'' he / his parents plainly contradicted the same said ''values'' quoted by Montefiore a paragraph earlier!

THIS IS SIMPLY PATHETIC!! SACKS DOES THIS HUMBUG - HOKUM THING THROUGHOUT MANY OF HIS ARTICLES! I HAVE SEEN IT ALL.
HE PLAINLY THINKS WE ARE ALL MORONS AND CANNOT FOLLOW LOGICAL - AND ILLOGICAL AND PERVERSE AND OBTUSE CORROLLARIES THAT HIS PROLIX CONSTRUCTION UNSKILLFULLY ATTEMPTS TO HIDE! WRONG!

ONE MERELY HAS TO NOTE HOW HE THINKS IN COMPILING THE VERBIAGE RESIDENT IN HIS ARTICLES!! THIS DELIBERATE MALFEASANT HUMBUG IN THE CORPUS OF HIS ARTICLES HE SMUGLY THINKS NO - ONE CAN DISCERN!!

IT IS HIS ARROGANCE THAT GETS ME!
BUT I DIGRESSED - I GO ON: NOTE THAT I EXPLORE HERE MERELY ONE OF HIS CONTRIVANCES
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I guess Sacks uses disparate alternative words and phrases to assimilate like:

identify with the wider society
wanted us to be English
They integrated

Note what Montefiore is quoted as quoted as having said by The Times - Sacks wrote the original article for The Times - which explains why he is prepared in THAT forum prepared to break with the basic ele,ents of Judaism!

''....birthday in 1884, said that he had shown that “fervent Judaism and patriotic citizenship are absolutely compatible with one another.''

So much for his parents ignoble sycophantic yearning to assimilate - or ''integrate'' as Sacks puts it.
Indeed, Sacks ''went further!!!''

''They integrated and encouraged us to go further because there was something to integrate into.''

Indeed, Sacks ''went further!!!''
As demonstrated in merely this one tangent of his contradictory theme.

Note that the pathetic man plainly does not realize that his own words so plainly vitiate / contradict the ethic of assimilation / integration / and as he grandly puts it - ''identifing with the wider society''!

Oh the silliness - the trite imbecility of simultaneously insulting the basic principles of Judaism via his sycophantic efforts to APPEASE THE TIMES AUDIENCE!!

AND THEN ADMITTING IT DID NOT WORK!! SEE HIS SECOND AND THIRD PARAGRAPHS!!

SEE DIFFERENT TYPE!!

I leave this essay unfinished.
Geoff Seidner

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The role model was Sir Moses Montefiore, the Victorian philanthropist and president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews. The Times, in an editorial written on his hundredth birthday in 1884, said that he had shown that “fervent Judaism and patriotic citizenship are absolutely compatible with one another”. That might sound condescending now, but considering what was happening to Jews elsewhere in Europe, it was a lifeline.

http://www.chiefrabbi.org/2011/02/07/having-pride-in-britain-protects-all-cultures-published-in-the-times/#.UCMJlU0gdqj

Ex Jonathan Sacks' website pulished there on 7 February 2011

AS PER LINK ABOVE.

[GS]

Having pride in Britain protects all cultures (published in The Times)

7 February, 2011\

Articles, Writings & Speeches

David Cameron was right to say that multiculturalism has failed, echoing similar statements by Nicholas Sarkozy and Angela Merkel. It was undertaken for the highest of motives. It was intended to create a more tolerant society, one in which everyone, regardless of colour, creed or culture, felt at home. Its effect has been precisely the opposite.

Last week the Community Security Trust, the body that monitors antisemitic incidents, published its annual report, showing that the figures for 2010 were the second highest since record-keeping began. Jews especially in London and Manchester have found themselves attacked on their way to and from synagogue, or abused by passers-by. Jewish students feel themselves so intimidated on campuses throughout the country that last week they were in Westminster lobbying their MPs, something I cannot recall happening before.

The Jewish community in Britain is small, and antisemitism only one form of hatred among many. But the Jewish story is worth telling if only because the re-emergence of antisemitism in a culture is always an early warning signal of wider breakdown. The alarm has been sounding loudly for some time.

Many Jews of my parents’ generation owed their lives to this country. It took them in when they faced persecution elsewhere. They loved Britain and deeply internalized its values. The inscription on the tombstone of a former President of the United Synagogue summed up the entire Anglo-Jewish experience. It read, “A proud Englishman and a proud Jew.”

The role model was Sir Moses Montefiore, the Victorian philanthropist and president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews. The Times, in an editorial written on his hundredth birthday in 1884, said that he had shown that “fervent Judaism and patriotic citizenship are absolutely compatible with one another”. That might sound condescending now, but considering what was happening to Jews elsewhere in Europe, it was a lifeline.

My parents lived those values and taught them to us. They became the first Jews in their families for perhaps a thousand years not to teach their children Yiddish because they wanted us to be English and identify with the wider society.

They were not naive. They remembered vividly when Mosley and the British Union of Fascists marched through London’s East End. They knew the genteel anti-Semitism that was almost ubiquitous in certain literary and social circles. They knew that England was a class bound society with many faults.

But they admired the British for their tolerance and decency, their sense of fair play and their understated but indomitable courage. They were proud to be English because the English were proud to be English. Indeed in the absence of pride there can be no identity at all. They integrated and encouraged us to go further because there was something to integrate into.

At some time that pride disintegrated, to be replaced by what Kate Fox amusingly calls “one-downmanship.” TheBritish started seeing their own history as an irredeemable narrative of class, snobbery, imperialism, racism and social exclusion. It was in this atmosphere that, in the 1970s, multiculturalism was born. It said: there is no need to integrate.

The first people to try multiculturalism, the Dutch, were also the first people to regret it. The Princeton sociologists Paul Sniderman and Louk Hagendoorn found that the Dutch favoured tolerance and opposed multiculturalism. When asked what the difference was, they replied that tolerance ignores differences; multiculturalism makes an issue of them at every point.

Multiculturalism is part of the wider European phenomenon of moral relativism, a doctrine that became influential as a response to the Holocaust. It was argued that taking a stand on moral issues was a sign of an “authoritarian personality”. Moral judgment was seen as the first step down the road to fanaticism. But moral relativism is the deathknell of a civilization. In a relativist culture, there is no moral consensus, only a clash of conflicting views in which the loudest voice wins.

That is where we are today. The extremists command attention and capture the headlines, and they become the role models for the young. Since there is no national identity to claim their allegiance, there is no contest. Hence the phenomenon, widespread throughout Europe today but rare in the past, that the children of immigrants are more hostile to the host society than their parents were, and feel themselves more alien to its values.

I have never known the British Jewish community, especially its university students, more anxious about the future than they are today. But I have heard the same from many Hindus and Sikhs. They feel that the more they seek to integrate, the less attention is paid to them by the government and the media. They are no problem, therefore they can be ignored. That too is terribly dangerous for the British future.

Multiculturalism, entered into for the noblest of reasons, has suffered from the law of unintended consequences. By dissolving national identity it makes it impossible for groups to integrate because there is nothing to integrate into, and by failing to offer people pride in being British, it forces them to find sources of pride elsewhere.

Without shared values and a sense of collective identity, no society can sustain itself for long. I fear the extremism that is slowly but surely becoming, throughout the world, the siren song of the twenty-first century. We have to fight it here before we can convincingly oppose it elsewhere.

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Having pride in Britain protects all cultures (published in The Times)

7 February, 2007
Articles, Writings & Speeches

At some time that pride disintegrated, to be replaced by what Kate Fox amusingly calls “one-downmanship.” TheBritish started seeing their own history as an irredeemable narrative of class, snobbery, imperialism, racism and social exclusion. It was in this atmosphere that, in the 1970s, multiculturalism was born. It said: there is no need to integrate.

Multiculturalism is part of the wider European phenomenon of moral relativism, a doctrine that became influential as a response to the Holocaust. It was argued that taking a stand on moral issues was a sign of an “authoritarian personality”. Moral judgment was seen as the first step down the road to fanaticism. But moral relativism is the deathknell of a civilization. In a relativist culture, there is no moral consensus, only a clash of conflicting views in which the loudest voice wins.

I have never known the British Jewish community, especially its university students, more anxious about the future than they are today. But I have heard the same from many Hindus and Sikhs. They feel that the more they seek to integrate, the less attention is paid to them by the government and the media. They are no problem, therefore they can be ignored. That too is terribly dangerous for the British future.

Without shared values and a sense of collective identity, no society can sustain itself for long. I fear the extremism that is slowly but surely becoming, throughout the world, the siren song of the twenty-first century. We have to fight it here before we can convincingly oppose it elsewhere.

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Israelis resigned to fresh wave of terror

On Wednesday night, as news of the terrorist attack against Israelis in Bulgaria was emerging, a group of foreign journalists in Jerusalem gathered in the home of a leading lawyer for an evening with Israelis keen to talk about how the worldviewed their country.

It was a high-powered group of Israelis: former prime minister Ehud Olmert walked in, fresh from being found not guilty of key charges in a corruption trial.
But the mood of the evening was dominated by the news that five Israelis had been killed as they arrived for a holiday in Bulgaria. And while Olmert, a big political figure in Israel, normally commands the attention of a group such as this, it was another guest who was in the spotlight. This guest had an extremely difficult job: to make sure that when Israelis were killed overseas by terrorism they were brought home quickly and that the needs of the families were met.
The Foreign Ministry liaised with him through the evening following the murder of the Israelis and their Bulgarian bus driver by a suicide bomber.

'There are days that are painful and yesterday was one such day'
EHUD BARAK
ISRAEL'S DEFENSE MINISTER

The man also had to undertake his grim role justmonths ago; he was in charge of making sure three children killed as theyarrived at school in Toulouse, France, in March were brought back to Israel. The Israelis at the dinner feared that this could signal the beginning of a new wave of attacks on Jewish targets. "Israel needs to assume that weare now at the beginning of a wave of terror attacks of this kind," Alex Fishman wrote in Yedioth Ahronoth. Young Israelis are prolific travellers. It is almost a rite of passage that after their time in the army, which is compulsory for most, they travel to decompress.

The Israelis killed in Bulgaria never had a chance. Unbeknown to them, as they walked from the airport they were being followed. The video footage of the bomber is chilling. Wearing shorts and baseball cap, he appears to be a typical backpacker. But he is pacing back and forth, waiting for his prey, and it is now clear his bulging backpackwas heavy with explosives. Survivors returning to Israel yesterday gave insights into the bombing. One man told how when he jumped from the bus he could see three bodies below. Another said all he could see were "disconnected hands and legs".

When you live in Israel you see the human effect of terrorism up close. One of the most difficult stories I've had to cover was the funeral of the four Toulouse victims. As we stood at the cemetery outside Jerusalem, first came the body of Rabbi Jonathan Sandler.

But when the next body was carried in, that of three-year-old Gabriel, it wastoo much for most people. Even the translator of French foreign minister Alain Juppe, who was attending, could not bear it.

She broke down. It was the smallest body: it barely covered one-third of the stretcher. It is difficult for those who do not live in Israel to understand the impact that terrorism, particularly the second intifada has had on this society.

I once asked my dentist, who had moved from Melbourne, whether he had been in Jerusalem during the second intifada, when Palestinian terrorists targeted Israeli civilians. He explained that he had been in the Moment cafe in Jerusalem one Saturday evening when a man exploded himself, killing 11. A year later a bus was blown up outside his practice and he had the horrible task of trying to work out which bodies still had life in them and assisting.

One person every foreign journalist coming to Israel should meet is Arnold Roth, originally from Melbourne. On August 9, 2001, Roth's daughter Malki, 15, walkedinto the Sbarro pizza restaurant in Jerusalem. A man with a guitar case also walked in and exploded himself, killing Malki and 14 others. "For all practical purposes my daughter's murder took place this morning," Roth told me.
It is excruciating but important to hear Roth recall the night his daughter was killed. He turned up to one hospital looking for his daughter and a frantic doctor told him:"There's a dead girl over there,go and have a look, and there's another girl over there who's about to be operated on."
He and his wife Frimet now run a foundation in Malki's name that raises money for disabled children so they can be cared for at home. It gives help to both Jewish and Arab children. Since the second intifada ended in 2004, Israel has enjoyed relative calm. There are many reasons for this, including better security by Israel and an acknowledgment by the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank that violence is no answer. New threats to Israelis abroad, as suggested by Toulouse and Bulgaria, appear driven by Islamic extremists taking cues from Iran and its proxy, Hezbollah.
No matter how good Israel's intelligence is, it is impossible to detect every threat. Israel's Defence Minister Ehud Barak told a shocked Israeli public yesterday that Bulgaria was not an intelligence failure. "The success of our intelligence and of others has been great, but there are days that are painful, and yesterday was one such day," he said.
Israelis now are bracing themselves for a possible return to the horrors of the past.

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Has John Lyons started to learn folly of his previous approach to journalism? http://wotnews.com.au/news/John_Lyons/

Posted on 2012-07-22 03:48:59 GMT

For once some unadulterated facts....John Lyons is usually very unsymaptrhetic to Israel.

Posted on 2012-07-22 04:18:05 GMT

People's attitude towards acts of terrorism can be likened to that of car accidents! Unless they, a loved one, or someone they know is involved in one, they never really think about it! Maybe this experience has been an 'epihpany' for Mr Lyons?

Posted by Freddo on 2012-07-24 02:53:39 GMT

I read this article over the weekend and I was surprised by the unusually sympathetic tone. Until the bit where Lyons surmises that there had been less terror because the Pals have seen that violence is not the answer. This is of course wishful thinking and complete nonsense. The reason that there are fewer successful attacks in Israel is purely a result of Israel's improved security ie The Fence. Every day would-be terrorists are thwarted by Israeli security and border guards. And in Ramallah and elsewhere children continue to be indoctrinated with lessons of hatred and martyrdom. So no points to the Pals.

Posted by Shyrla Werdiger on 2012-07-24 03:03:12 GMT

Or to Lyons really!

Posted by Ronit on 2012-07-24 03:03:54 GMT

John Lyons has 'history.' Any favourable article from him has to be taken with a poisonous grain of humbug! The link below will inform. Geoff Seidner East St Kida http://generallyjewish.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/khghjgt-i-note-with-interest-that-my.html

Posted by Geoff Seidner on 2012-07-24 05:04:06 GMT

John Lyons is not Robert Fisk but he has penned some dreadful moral equivalence junk in the past. The current article doesn't add up to a trend but it is a step in the right direction.

Posted by Ymr on 2012-07-24 05:13:32 GMT

What a bunch of uncharitable comments. Sure, John Lyons has written a lot of tripe in the past, but even journalists can mend their ways. So can governments. Until recently, foreign correspondents in Israel were treated with disdain by officialdom and often had to rely on local stringers for information. Clearly, hasbara has improved.

Posted by Zelda Cawthorne on 2012-07-24 06:51:48 GMT

"A single swallow does not a summer make"

Posted by Yoda on 2012-07-24 06:54:30 GMT

I would love to believe that Lyons has changed. But when journalists change opinions they usually tell the reader honestly about the turning point for them eg Nick Cohen. I see nothing of that from Lyons' current piece. What I see is a journalist who has been forced from above to write a piece sympathetic to one side. I'll go out on a limb here and say that the next few articles he writes will be sympathetic to the other side, justifying his journalistic 'balance'. I'd love to be wrong.

Posted on 2012-07-24 08:44:51 GMT

Posted by freddo on 2012-07-24 09:12:53 GMT

One article doesn't make him a friend. Let's see what the future brings.

Posted on 2012-07-24 09:14:10 GMT

Excuses for Lyons http://www.icjs-online.org/index.php?article=3790 I am saddened by some comments on this blog variously espousing excuses, justifications for John Lyons' record. Here - under is a grab - bag of unfortunate attempts at ameliorating the unconscionable, justifying the untennable and unrealistically espousing optimism that Lyons has changed his 'spots.' Uncharitable, mend his ways, then the strained, oblique defacto contradiction about how ''hasbara has improved!'' Even Z's use of ''Hasbara'' is a clear attack on Israel - if you read it carefully. Zelda C manages to blame the Israeli government via some asinine strained idea that biased attacks on Eretz Israel was penned because of lack of co - operation by said government!! How ''UNCHARITABLY'' absurd her essential excuse for Lyons is - via the idea that L had to in the past rely on ''local stringers.'' INDEED - he surely did - as he painted regular visages of their 'victimhood! INDEED - HE INTERVIEWED THE PEOPLE THAT HE PAINTED AS VICTIMS OF ISRAELI VIOLENCE OR DISPARATE CONTRIVED, IMAGINED TRAVESTIES! Then one needs to look at merely the use of the 'but' word: ''but'' it is a step in the right direction.'' {I once wrote an essay: An 'Ode to the words But, Butts and Balderdash.' I think the last word was Bullocks!!] Does the writer realize that this cliched 'step' is not motivated from The Australian's Ramallah correspondent's cold heart? He has written some of the worst attacks on Israel ever seen on the pages of The Oz. Dozens of times. Period. He has been eviscerated - writes 'nice' articles - and returns to form soon: it is merely time - based. Then the cycle starts again ad infinitum. Surely one can see that his latent warm - inner - glow towards Israel was as a result of enormous pressure put on the man by the likes of myself complaining to the editor. I also wrote I to Rupert Murdoch's office in New York - and received immediately a personal apology - from the editor of The Australian. And to the writer who espouses some sort of ''epihany'' - get real! ''Junk'' articles? Does this writer seriously think Lyons did not know what he was doing? That he had a pool of monkeys bashing on his keyboard and came up with his many internicine, pre - ''epiphanous, junk'' of articles. I am going to send this stream - and other matters material hereto - to Mr Murdoch's office as well as to the editors of The Australian. And if perchance more pressure can be put on Lyons to write with human decency - it will not be as a result of some of the 'junk' I have seen above my entries on this esteemed blog. This writer realizes that a measure of success on one tangent of these scribbles will indubitably prove the flaw with the obverse. To wit - I allude as to wheteher Lyons will indeed write appropriate articles in future. It is a matter of historical fact that very few writers change their style unless it is forced on them. Eventually - when this pressure becomes so great as to be 'intolerable' - they resign - like The Australian's previous scribbler Martin Chulov. He now works for The Guardian! He too had 'history'! Geoff Seidner East St Kilda http://generallyjewish.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/khghjgt-i-note-with-interest-that-my.html

Posted by Geoff Seidner on 2012-07-26 02:42:09 GMT

Hear, hear: Geoff Seidner

Posted on 2012-07-26 11:04:04 GMT

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